My fan in position- looks great... doesn't work! |
Its a bit hard to get at the cowling bolts so I undid the three M10 nuts and washers holding the fan motor to the cowl |
... and the fan can then be fiddled out upwards. |
I did find this reference to the problem in a similar Lotus, the fan I think is identical, here on another forum. I followed this with a few mods as below.
Note- fan seems to be a Ford unit I think from the Fiesta! |
Rear of fan- end plate nuts at 8 and 2 O clock |
M8 nuts (end plate) and M7 below fan |
Fan retention clip and washer |
Broke C or E clip and washer |
Removing end plate |
Spring loaded brushes and wire connections |
Inside the motor the commutator was clean- it seems to have been re-machined at some point because its recessed below the original diameter, but it seems to be in good condition.
Returning to the end plate- this is the contact damage I had noticed; the power terminal is loose and moveable.
Now I could access the brush contacts on the inside I was able to check whether the connector was to blame. It was- but to my surprise it wasn't the damaged pin that was out of contact but the earth contact (recessed) that was not connected to the brush.
No connection between recessed terminal and blue wire to brush! |
This obviously needs fixing if possible. I can't find a source for fit-your-own SAE connectors, but they are readily available as pre-wired fly leads for Sealey or Schumacher bty chargers. I ordered a few of these because they seemed cheap and I'm sure will be useful. However, it was at this point (halfway through my fix), that I discovered that the nice new connectors were actually coming from China and would take about 3 weeks to get here! That's no good so I decided to make a repair using conventional bullet connectors and I will swap them for a weatherproof 2-pin connector later. I'm not happy about this because I like to keep as much original material as possible, but needs must! If you are doing this I recommend you get the new connectors before starting!
The end plate SAE connector seen side-on has a big circular pad underneath the end plate. Its obviously not going to pull out downwards and I can't lever it out upwards unless I remove the fibreboard stage by undoing the rivets and that's too much trouble.
Dremmel off external section of SAE connector. |
Metal contacts penetrating through the SAE connector- one left one right. Central spot is just a hole. |
Metal terminals inside matrix |
Terminals removed and wires pulled through |
I soldered on about 4 inches of new wire |
And slipped on (and heated)some heat-shrink tubing to cover the joins. |
and appropriate terminals crimped on.
I checked that the new wires were making good contact right through from new terminal to the relevant brush and then reassembled the motor.
The brushes can be fiddly to get in place but their grooves are designed to hold them back if they are angled like this. This gives enough space between them to allow them to slip over the commutator. Make sure the wires are routed out of the way so that the brushes will be free to move when released.
As they are positioned above (ie at 9 and 3 O clock) you can see that pushing the inner edge of each down from the top would free them from their retaining groove and allow them to slip forward along their grooves and onto the commutator. Study the position and direction of "push" needed because its hard to see once the end plate is on. Note line of brushes is 90 degrees to the line of the two mounting bolts holes.
Fit the end plate, if you just ease it out carefully you can see the brushes inside- there is one below just above the screw terminal for instance.
I pushed the inner edges of both brushes down (ie across the end plate and down into the picture as seen above) using a section of thin wooden lolly stick or craft stick. There is an audible click when each is released and slips inwards to contact the commutator.
You can then tighten the bolts again- here is the finished motor and you can see how the white pad remaining from the SAE terminal provides a semblance of a seal for the new wiring.
I replaced the washer and E clips on the fan- my new clips were much thinner than the old and so I used two to make sure I filled the groove on the shaft.
I tested the fan using a direct feed from the battery to the new terminals and it worked straight away with no nasty noises. I was therefore able to finally refit the fan and test in position. It still worked although there was a graunching sound caused by having moved the cowling struts during fan removal. These were easily bent back into position reinstalled.
Well So far so good as they say! However I think I am still stuck with the wiring problem and I will need to study that some more. At present the fan will only work if + and - battery terminals are connected directly to the two new leads. Shorting out the otter switch doesn't turn on the fan even though it does turn on a 12V supply down the green and black to red feed wire!
Fan wiring operation
Well, thank goodness this is an older car with a simpler fan circuit!
The fan draws its operating current directly from the bty positive post- but via the fan relay (the lowest of 3 in the driver's footwell). Normally this feed is interrupted by the relay so the fan doesn't operate. The otter switch draws its power from the Aux terminal on the ignition switch, if the motor is cold then the switch is open circuit and power goes no farther. If the motor is hot the switch closes and then feeds power to the relay activation terminals. This flows to earth across the relay, activating the solenoid action to close the battery feed to the fan. If the solenoid fails, then the power coming in from the otter switch cannot flow to earth and instead is forced down the fan fail circuit where it flows through and illuminates the fan fail light, passes through the fan fail diode and then flows to earth through the fan- I think this current has been greatly reduced by passing through the fan fail light so that there is not enough power here to run the fan. This means firstly that the fan fail light is really a relay fail light and doesn't actually tell you about the condition of the fan. Secondly, because power will only flow through this circuit when the otter switch is closed and the relay inactive, the lamp will not illuminate as a self-test function when the ignition is first turned on. Finally the fan fail diode is there to stop current flowing backwards round the fail circuit during normal operation. If the diode fails the fan warning light will either not work at all (broken connection in diode) or will illuminate all the time the fan is on despite the fan working normally (current gating failure). The diode is tested by removing the relay and shorting the otter switch- this should cause the fan fail to illuminate and in my case did so nicely. I eventually tracked my problem down to a missing fuse. Oddly although a single fan should operate through fuse 22, I found that fuse 23 was needed for operation so I left both in position. I think the odd 12v feed to fan that I had observed previously is probably fan fail current running through the fan but too weak to start it.
Of course, I still do not know if the otter switch itself will function, but at least I do now know that there is no real fault with the fan or control circuitry itself!
On a side note, the other warning light in the car is the choke/low fuel light. This also does not illuminate for self-test when the ign is operated. I found it came to life straight away when the choke was pulled, However- I have an empty tank and so assume that the low fuel light should be illuminated even if the choke isn't operated- its not so I may have a sender problem as well. I can't tell if the gauge is working because the tank is empty! I need to find out how the low fuel light works and see whether I can explain it. I have added this discussion to the entry "Fuel system tank to carbs".
hi. Thanks for your input ,very informative,will certainly help me with my suspect fan problem . Ray
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