The motor in the car was fitted with a large format pump- apparently identical to the pre 85 pump illustrated in the parts list.
The pump that came with the spare motor was smaller and resembled the post 86 pump, but it wasn't by any means identical; the main differences were some variations in the pipe moulding patterns and a lack of stub pipe to thermostat housing and the blocking off of the heater return stub pipe opening on the front of the pump body.
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Although I had believed this was a post 86 pump, I have since discovered that it is in fact an earlier model as fitted to the Eclat or Excel 907 motors and which was superceded by the larger pump used on the Excel (and for Elites/Eclats with aircon) and which was fitted to the motor in the car.
The pump that came with the spare engine is in worse condition with a bent shaft, but since I had intended to renovate one of them anyway, I still do have a choice as to which I use. The pump selected then dictates the fitting of other components such as the hoses required and possibly brackets for other ancillary equipment as well.
Parts diagram-later pump on left, pre-86 pump (larger) on right |
Note mounting hole bottom right (in this view) of the thermostat housing in this pump which goes right through the thickness of the pump body and is filled by the 75mm bolt.... |
and in this one (Elite/Eclat)where the thickness of the casting is reduced. |
Given that the pre 86 pump I have is in better condition (shaft not bent), it appears to be correct for the year of car and that I have most mounting bolts, hoses and a matching alternator bracket, it seems wisest to go with this pump. However, since I cannot be sure of its condition and as it has been sitting unused for many years (albeit surprisingly with water in it!) I think I will still send it away for renovation.
Block mating surface, the pattern of 5 bolt holes fits with either pump. |
It therefore seems that the more chunky pump is right for my car.
I also ordered some new hoses from SJS- I suspected attempting reuse of my hardened hoses is just a way of booking a second strip-down in pretty short order so best to use new. I did notice a bit of a mystery regarding the inlet manifold to pump hose though; in the diagram (above) it's shown as a simple, straight hose- and indeed that's what I found had been fitted when I took it apart (see removing the head... although I did have to cut the hose to remove it). However, the replacement sold by SJS for this position has a slight kink in it, a straight hose being sold for the HC engine only. I am not therefore sure which is best for this car. Also given the evidence of attention by the LBPO, I can't be sure that the wrong hose hasn't been fitted in the past. Overall, I think that I will follow the parts list and will order the straight HC motor hose - its about half the price anyway and so the cheapest to start with. I can always order the kinked hose later if needed.
OOOps...The Best laid plans....
I had to clean the nasty old RTV gunk from the pump before mailing it to PNM- and having done this I could then see that the bolt holes are in a bad state- 2 are very enlarged and distorted and 2, although still round, look rather larger than the M6 bolt that should go through them! I am therefore worried that it won't sit firmly and could move on the block in service. This might explain why it was fitted with RTV gunk rather than the gasket which is correct for this year. I therefore need to reconsider my selection of pump to use for my resto; or get an age-appropriate used one to recondition.
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